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@StanD 

about the trigger word ...

I think it is terrible you feel pressured to agree when in that very vulnerable suicidal space.  

 

I think that could be the thing that pushed me over the edge if they tried it on me when I am close to doing it  I am a bit different cause I am upset about how the MH services managed my brother and sister. I am upset how they pretend to manage things in the community but that means dumping the responsibility on young mothers with a heavy childbearing load. ie My sister in law with a 6 week old and me with 3 under 9.  So I could go right off me rocker if they expected me to say "I am safe".  

 

Triggers are all different. There is no way we can ban a word and be safe. 

 

I was triggered and upset when Sane called this a safe place, in order to attract people to share...

 

It is a human community full of risks and challenges but they are they are trying to keep it a productive therapeutic place and yes, manage the risks.  So I stayed.  I took quite a few knocks here that I managed on my own.  Not good at dobbing people in, trained by orphanage culture that it is not a good thing.  I have learned to push back gently if it happens these days. Not swallowing BS anymore.

 

I am glad you are finding some solace here.

 

No need to put it life "clinging to the words of strangers" or anything to dismiss yourself.  

 

I dont present a lot with my suicidal side cos my suicidal side came AFTER me dealing with MH service failure with my siblings and parents.  Hmmmm.  Mostly I keep my massive struggles with suicidality to myself, but beginning to let it off in small snippets in relationship.  I had the job of trying to protect 3 young kids from the horror of suicide.

 

I failed to protect them, as probably anyone would in my position but I cannot get proper counselling or psychological support about it. I have really tried. They are all too freaked out and want their cosy well dressed job with all the pay, virtue signalling and limited legal liability. 

 

It is a generalisation, but I am still looking and struck a doozy with my current one.  My plan manager asking me if she really should be charging me above the NDIS rate?  I approved it cos I am such a damn people pleaser, but then reflected how hurt she keeps making me feel. Having my last session with her Monday.  She has needs, she tells me, to afford holidays and motor bikes. and tries to bring me down to her level. Pretends she is trauma informed and empathic but has poor listening skills, and keeps dropping massive insults in a session, cos she is not wanting to reflect on everything she says and used to saying whatever she bloomin feels like.  I do better with the ad hoc nature of general communities seeking to improve themselves without being paid.  I have found someone else, different style, sex, attitude to tek, cos I know I need the outlet and support or I would be "unwell".  So starting again.... weary sigh ... 

 

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Thank you for sharing these wonderful sayings, @StanD. They gave me many smiles. 😊

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@StanD good to see you about, lovely.  We had a Perseid meteor shower in the skies this morning which are apparent in the heavens of the northern hemisphere but keenly felt here, my dreams were so incredibly lucid. It gave me cues to lending more purpose to my life.  Today I used a technique to incubate my thoughts, dreams and wishes using a pyramid of light visualisation above my crown.

 

I feel things will start to move forward after tomorrow when Venus is Cazimi and shifts from evening star to morning star.  I have a man who is interested in me still, its all for ME! With venus shifting gears I think I'll be focussing more on having what was destined to be. Love is never perfect but its a proper reference point for what we do have in this life.  I'm not perfect either by any means. I hope you are doing ok StanD and wishing you a bright and happy day.  I wish I had a telescope to see Venus on the horizon at sunrise @Historylover I hope you are finding things to do today that bring you joy.

 

Sending love to everyone this Venus Cazimi

 

https://foreverconscious.com/intuitive-astrology-venus-star-point-august-2023

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Oh @Appleblossom it is refreshing to read your words.

 

You are a walking contradiction! Like me ... Like most of us.. we could be more so?

 

And yes, @Historylover problems fitting in. Your insights are likely exactly things I've suspected, but maybe too worried about expressing? I do know the feeling of belonging & how it can be magnified by adding or subtracting elements. The 'new person' is so relatable.

 

I wanted to say more - I like this discussion. I lost my train of thought & about to indulge in sc.

 

Apple, y said in previous post, you were OUT & PROUD. 

 

I am people pleaser too.

 

Last night, I saw possible glimpse of how pernicious it is.

 

HL & Apple, - I want to care about people. 

 

I don't like feeling bad.

I attempt to show kindness if I think another is feeling bad like I would.

 

It's not quite right.

Or - what is it? I'm really doing?

 

Self compassion to me, at this moment in my life - is to be SELFISH.

 

I struggle ... Is that right, tho?

 

💜

 

 

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Learning piano keyboard at the moment, @Former-Member. For me, mental exhaustion is physically exhausting too. I'm enjoying it, though.

 

I hope you're doing well. Happy Venus Cazimi to you, too.🌞

 

I'd been going to check in on you, but you beat me to it.

 

Where did you meet your friend, @Former-Member?

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What is Empathy 

 

and 

 

What is taking on the pain of another?

 

I don't think we can 'fix' other people.

 

I think,

It MUST Be 

 

SELFISH COMPASSION

 

?

 

Oh, & @Appleblossom please don't hold back, if you want to express suicide.

 

Thanks for looking out for me, & picking up on my language.

 

TRUST & knowing I am being lied to. 

 

Letting person in. Feeling that FINALLY, I have succeeded. 

 

Then having that person hurt me.

What is that?

 

Not accidental hurt - deliberate.

 

I'm being made a total fool of. I can't speak. I won't ever speak again.

 

I won't ever trust again.

 

I will forget 

I will let you in 

Again & again 

 

Lost thought again ...

 

A cute neighbourhood cat is walking outside my window. All black. 

 

 

 

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I'm not a people pleaser, but I do try to muck in @StanD. It seems that some think I am too assertive, but if I did nothing to muck in, I would be thought inconsiderate. There's no pleasing people. I think they just like to find fault to make themselves feel important. ??? Pfft! If anyone finds the magic formula, please let me know. 

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Thanks for them @StanD really inspiring, amusing and fun. You made my day.

 

PS. I also watched my cat trying to get birds from the window today. V funny.

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Piano keyboard sounds like fun @Historylover. You did not tell everyone you were playing keyboards!  I used to play recorder and sing in a couple of choirs but thats all.  It will bring you lots of enjoyment. My last choir was at a neighborhood house. The lady organising the choir won a music scholarship based on her sheer talent but could not afford it for other reasons. It may have had something to do with relocation idk.  But it was a'cappella, it was a nice group. As for the mystery man I met him through The New Age having to seek him out for advice regarding a certain matter. 

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@Former-Member You played recorder and sang a capella ... lovely!

 

@Former-Member @TAB 

 

@Historylover The people pleasing must be a bit how  a person is wired or when and where they were, that brought out that adaptation.

I only became aware of it relatively recently ... 5 years ... youtube etc.  

 

 

@StanD 

I did love those quotes and will go back to them.  Cant memorise them all lol.

 

Thanks for reading that long post of mine.